Frequently Asked Questions
| 1 | I don't think the fence will work. A 6-foot-high chicken wire fence is easily cut through or climbed over with a ladder. | Many people who have not read our proposal in detail think we are only building a chicken wire agricultural fence, and it will not stop illegal invaders from entering our country.
Their arguments include:
1. It is easily cut through
2. It is easily climbed over
3. Only a high steel wall carefully guarded, perhaps with electric wire, will work.
The truth is, the chicken wire fence and chain link fence, coupled with cameras, is the best solution for the money, not for hermetically sealing off Mexico, but for knocking illegal immigration down to a trickle, for the following reasons:
1. Any fence, know matter how high, can be climbed with a ladder.
2. The secret is, guard the fence with cameras that cover the entire border. The fence only slows them down, the cameras allow us to report and detain them. This is the most necessary component of our fence and will go all 1952 miles.
3. Chicken wire is almost impossible to climb as the barbs are 3 inches apart, much better than the chain link-only fence or corrugated steal the feds use now. Concertina wire will prevent climbing.
4. If the chicken wire is cut, that will detonate a proposed sensor making detection more guaranteed, and detainment more likely, and is cheap to splice and fix.
5. The Department of the Interior will not likely allow any non-profit or non-government fence that does not meet current requirements. The DOI is required to build and maintain agricultural fencing, but chooses not to keep up because of lack of funding.
6. Environmentalists are not likely to allow any fence they deem harmful to the environment. They claim a wider fence tramples on "sacred" grounds. Human rights activists often sue claiming fences are inhumane to people who need to enter. With an agricultural fence already required, their complaints are likely to lose in federal court.
7. A high and/or wide concrete or solid steel fence is out of reach for the limited budget of a non-profit organization.
8. We as Minutemen and Border Patrol agents can see through the chicken wire or chain link fence, whereas a solid wall is not see-through, so illegals approaching from Mexico can be seen well in advance; Americans are often flanked or even assaulted with rocks because of the cover of a solid wall.
9. We are now building chain link security fencing on private land and reinforcing agricultural public fencing with chain link also.
10. Chicken wire is not easily cut through as each aperture is only 1 inch and it takes twice as many cuts to cut the same size 2 x 2 foot hole. Most of the strands are double helix and just as hard to cut through as 10 gauge wire.
11. We are exploring the possibility of using a triple wall with trench on private land. The center wall can be made of recycled rubber from tires, with concertina wire at top, placed in the middle of the trench, with two earth walls pushed to side reformed into parabolas and treated to form solid adobe. This solution should be cost effective as we receive 50 cents for each old tire, and environmentally and build-code friendly. | | 2 | I don't think the government will give you permission to build the fence, or the environmentalists will sue, as they think wildlife should be allowed to cross freely north and south. | Many of you think permission to build all 1952 miles of fencing won't be allowed because the government cares more about leaving animal migration patterns unimpeded, or environmentalists
will sue to keep the border unfenced.
However, here are the facts:
1. We have been working with Department of the Interior rangers for many months to mend and extend the fence with their permission.
2. Standard Form 299 permits are now pending to receive DOI acknowledgement of the fence building project. Any restrictions will likely result in legal action as the DOI has a policy
of building and maintaining U.S.-Mexico border fencing to keep out Mexican live stock, which are often infected and a threat to both the American people and animals.
3. Fringe element environmentalists, who only represent a small minority of the DOI, usually lose in court when they argue fencing inhibits the natural migratory patterns of wildlife,
or the construction tramples on an endangered species. They were defeated recently in court by the federal government, who are in the process of building 14 miles of fencing east of Imperial
Beach, CA.
4. Radio telemetry studies and the findings of most zoologists find that only aquatic animals and birds have predictable, perennial migratory patterns. Land animals will travel in random directions and the only reason environmental impact studies are done to study, say, the migration of deer across a proposed road, is that too many roads running in different directions could trap the deer in a confined area without enough food. A fence along the U.S.-Mexico border may trap animals to the north or south, but with plenty of habitat to guarantee survival.
5. Fences are more one-dimensional and not two-dimensional, therefore it is not possible to infringe on an entire "area" where a species is confined and endangered.
6. Most of our current efforts include fencing on private land adjacent to Mexico. | | 3 | The Bush Administration is open borders. How do we know he and his administration are not going to try and stop you in building the fence? | We have permission from Department of the Interior rangers to mend and reinforce fencing already on the border and required as part of DOI protocol, who choose not to maintain the fence because of funding or lack of will. Our Standard Form 299 permits are pending, any attempt to stall or deny them and we will take legal action and we expect to win, as the DOI must protect us from Mexican infected live stock and wildlife, amongst other things. | | 4 | Can't we build a better fence, maybe electric, chain-link with concertina wire, earth or adobe walls, trenches, large coils? Can't we build a higher or wider wall? | These will all be considered if the passion increases such that the Bureau of Land Management allows us to submit new permits requiring more land and humane considerations to all life that approaches the fence. These alternatives are already being made for private land where we are legally entitled to such fencing with minimum liability. We are also considering recycled rubber walls, which will be cost-efficient because we receive 50 cents for every tire we bale, and planting briar patches along the fence. | | 5 | How do we know our money is going to the right cause? We are fearful of scams and want to make sure you are a real non-profit organization, with 501 (c) (3) status in good standing. Can you prove your accounting of all funds? | We are in good standing in the state of California as a mutual benefit non-profit organization, incorporated December 13, 2004, corporation number C2716750, with a newly elected board of directors as of April 27, 2006. We have a president and a secretary, and our 501 (c) (3) is now in progress. No one at this time receives salary, all money is used for tools, raw materials, administration fees and advertising. More importantly, we display all receipts and proof of income and balance on our website monthly, please see Funds at the bottom of the page. | | 6 | Your rubber wall won't work. The illegals or terrorists will probably set it on fire as rubber burns very easily. | We will laminate the rubber columns on the outside with inflammable material too hard to scrape off or dissolve. We will also consider impregnating the rubber with inflammables. | | 7 | Are you the same organization as Minuteman Fence, and the Minuteman Civil Defense Corp? | No, we are the Border Fence Project, subdivision of NoInvaders.Org, a separate organization. We work with Minuteman Fence to coordinate different fencing styles on different private properties. |
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